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	<title>Comments on: Attorney in Missouri adoption case releases details of ruling</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.mamalitathebook.com/2012/07/attorney-in-missouri-adoption-case-releases-details-of-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-4682</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julio, thank you for writing. I read the article you linked to, which makes great sense. Below is an excerpt for anyone else who is interested. Thank you again.

http://www.hispanosunidos.us/punto-de-vista/31-the-tragedy-of-carlitos-and-encarnacion-bail-romero

&quot;... Let us be clear, the US has condoned illegal immigration and in the unfortunate incident that one is caught by a zealous government entity, the outcome can turn out to be disastrous.  In essence, the lack of enforcement of the US immigration policy has condoned illegal immigration.  We all know that the demand for illegal immigration is strong and that as long as it serves the United States economic needs for cheap labor, it opts to look the other way.  There are millions of Encarnacions out there and therefore millions of Carlitos out there.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julio, thank you for writing. I read the article you linked to, which makes great sense. Below is an excerpt for anyone else who is interested. Thank you again.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hispanosunidos.us/punto-de-vista/31-the-tragedy-of-carlitos-and-encarnacion-bail-romero" rel="nofollow">http://www.hispanosunidos.us/punto-de-vista/31-the-tragedy-of-carlitos-and-encarnacion-bail-romero</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; Let us be clear, the US has condoned illegal immigration and in the unfortunate incident that one is caught by a zealous government entity, the outcome can turn out to be disastrous.  In essence, the lack of enforcement of the US immigration policy has condoned illegal immigration.  We all know that the demand for illegal immigration is strong and that as long as it serves the United States economic needs for cheap labor, it opts to look the other way.  There are millions of Encarnacions out there and therefore millions of Carlitos out there.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Julio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biological parents should never fear the legal system terminating their parental rights, regardless of legal status or socioeconomic level, unless it can be proven that leaving the children with them would place the children in true danger. If the justice system begins to allow the illegal termination of parental rights and using questionable definitions of what it means “the best interest of the child,” we all should be concerned. Period.  Read this article: http://tiny.cc/carlitos-story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biological parents should never fear the legal system terminating their parental rights, regardless of legal status or socioeconomic level, unless it can be proven that leaving the children with them would place the children in true danger. If the justice system begins to allow the illegal termination of parental rights and using questionable definitions of what it means “the best interest of the child,” we all should be concerned. Period.  Read this article: <a href="http://tiny.cc/carlitos-story" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/carlitos-story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 06:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzanne, I agree: the cultural divide is vast and unfathomable to many who may not have witnessed the dire circumstances that lead thousands of people every year to leave Guatemala and risk life and limb to enter this country. The repercussions are great on both sides--for the people who find their way here, as well as for the family left behind. What is the alternative? For many, there is none. No work, and no possibility of work. No way to provide for their families. Thus, they risk the perilous trip.

For anyone interested in the subject, I recommend reading &quot;Enrique&#039;s Journey: The Story of a Boy&#039;s Dangerous Odyssey to Reuinite with his Mother,&quot; by Sonia Nazario, an eye-opening account of a Honduran mother who leaves her 5-year-old son to go work in the US. After 11 years of begging her to return, the boy travels a grueling 1000+ miles to find her. It&#039;s a harrowing and heartbreaking tale that puts a human face on immigration.

As Wendy says, some of the issue still seems to be that of being an  undocumented worker in the US. Yet according to published reports by Reuters and other news outlets, in 2010, a staggering $4.13 billion dollars were sent in remittances to Guatemala, 11 % of the country&#039;s economy. 90% of that $4.13 billion was money sent from the US. Obviously, Encarnacion Bail Romero is not the only long-distant parent trying to provide for her children in the only way she knows how. An estimated 1.6 million Guatemalans live and work in the US, many of those undocumented and unable to cross back over the border to parent their chidren. To single out Romero as incapable of parenting because she was behind bars seems harsh and unfair. 

At the same time, I see the Mosers&#039; side of the story, surely acting in good faith. For the sake of the boy who is now legally their son, I wish them well. 

Lisa, the comment &quot;being adopted by affluent white people&quot; jars me, too. Most adoptions of non-blood-related babies and children are in fact by white people. And those white people tend to be financially stable. They have to be, or else their adoption petition won&#039;t be approved by their agency, the State, or the Federal government. Maybe someday other groups will expand their idea of family to embrace non-blood related babies and children; maybe someday the government will modify the financial requirements for adoption approval. Until then, we&#039;re stuck with the status quo. 

Regarding this case, as Rachel says, it&#039;s hard not to feel hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanne, I agree: the cultural divide is vast and unfathomable to many who may not have witnessed the dire circumstances that lead thousands of people every year to leave Guatemala and risk life and limb to enter this country. The repercussions are great on both sides&#8211;for the people who find their way here, as well as for the family left behind. What is the alternative? For many, there is none. No work, and no possibility of work. No way to provide for their families. Thus, they risk the perilous trip.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in the subject, I recommend reading &#8220;Enrique&#8217;s Journey: The Story of a Boy&#8217;s Dangerous Odyssey to Reuinite with his Mother,&#8221; by Sonia Nazario, an eye-opening account of a Honduran mother who leaves her 5-year-old son to go work in the US. After 11 years of begging her to return, the boy travels a grueling 1000+ miles to find her. It&#8217;s a harrowing and heartbreaking tale that puts a human face on immigration.</p>
<p>As Wendy says, some of the issue still seems to be that of being an  undocumented worker in the US. Yet according to published reports by Reuters and other news outlets, in 2010, a staggering $4.13 billion dollars were sent in remittances to Guatemala, 11 % of the country&#8217;s economy. 90% of that $4.13 billion was money sent from the US. Obviously, Encarnacion Bail Romero is not the only long-distant parent trying to provide for her children in the only way she knows how. An estimated 1.6 million Guatemalans live and work in the US, many of those undocumented and unable to cross back over the border to parent their chidren. To single out Romero as incapable of parenting because she was behind bars seems harsh and unfair. </p>
<p>At the same time, I see the Mosers&#8217; side of the story, surely acting in good faith. For the sake of the boy who is now legally their son, I wish them well. </p>
<p>Lisa, the comment &#8220;being adopted by affluent white people&#8221; jars me, too. Most adoptions of non-blood-related babies and children are in fact by white people. And those white people tend to be financially stable. They have to be, or else their adoption petition won&#8217;t be approved by their agency, the State, or the Federal government. Maybe someday other groups will expand their idea of family to embrace non-blood related babies and children; maybe someday the government will modify the financial requirements for adoption approval. Until then, we&#8217;re stuck with the status quo. </p>
<p>Regarding this case, as Rachel says, it&#8217;s hard not to feel hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard not to feel hopeless that justice can ever exist in our country.  I feel bad for the Mosers because it&#039;s not their fault either. And it certainly isn&#039;t the child&#039;s fault.  Someone... several people... need to be losing their jobs over this.  They created the situation and now the judge is perpetuating the injustice.  I don&#039;t know the solution but I know this is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard not to feel hopeless that justice can ever exist in our country.  I feel bad for the Mosers because it&#8217;s not their fault either. And it certainly isn&#8217;t the child&#8217;s fault.  Someone&#8230; several people&#8230; need to be losing their jobs over this.  They created the situation and now the judge is perpetuating the injustice.  I don&#8217;t know the solution but I know this is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt terrible for her before but could also see the argument some had with not in best interest of child to release across border to come back illegally with all the inherent dangers of that.  I also had sympathy that her crimes were all of illegal entry and work but did not see other crimes there.  So looks like seeking a better life.  I.e. she wasn&#039;t running around in dangerous criminal elements I am aware of causing her to be in jail.  But now I just read she has two children left behind she showed no interest in visiting. Was she sending money home?  Whether other people did is not whether she did or not.  So if she is going to leave and not raise them then somebody is raising them right?  Someone has to raise them?  I think he should stay with the Mosers.  She isn&#039;t fit.  The affluent white people remark is annoying.  What if the Mosers were not white?  What does their being white have to do with it?  She has two kids in Guatemala she left behind and one here that she can&#039;t be with.  She&#039;s not raising the other two.  She should leave him where he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt terrible for her before but could also see the argument some had with not in best interest of child to release across border to come back illegally with all the inherent dangers of that.  I also had sympathy that her crimes were all of illegal entry and work but did not see other crimes there.  So looks like seeking a better life.  I.e. she wasn&#8217;t running around in dangerous criminal elements I am aware of causing her to be in jail.  But now I just read she has two children left behind she showed no interest in visiting. Was she sending money home?  Whether other people did is not whether she did or not.  So if she is going to leave and not raise them then somebody is raising them right?  Someone has to raise them?  I think he should stay with the Mosers.  She isn&#8217;t fit.  The affluent white people remark is annoying.  What if the Mosers were not white?  What does their being white have to do with it?  She has two kids in Guatemala she left behind and one here that she can&#8217;t be with.  She&#8217;s not raising the other two.  She should leave him where he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what Suzanne says about the cultural divide, and the fear and desperation of many illegal immigrants. Does the judge have any idea what this woman&#039;s life was like in Guatemala? That perhaps she feels she is doing the best thing as a parent by working here to send money home? That the poverty, malnutrition, and violence against women that are rampant in Guatemala might be reasons she believes she has made the best choice possible? When people are put in impossible situations they sometimes make desperate choices. 

Didn&#039;t the judge say in his own words, elsewhere if not in this ruling, that her &quot;lifestyle&quot; as an illegal immigrant was not conducive to being a good parent? That seems to be the real issue here. Her son is a U.S. citizen, she is not. If she were not an illegal alien she would have been provided ample opportunity and some resources to regain custody of her child. 

The &quot;best interest of the child&quot; argument can become a slippery slope. A parent&#039;s right to a child is a fundamental human right. Should all these parents lose their children because their kids would have their &quot;best interests&quot; met by being adopted by affluent white people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Suzanne says about the cultural divide, and the fear and desperation of many illegal immigrants. Does the judge have any idea what this woman&#8217;s life was like in Guatemala? That perhaps she feels she is doing the best thing as a parent by working here to send money home? That the poverty, malnutrition, and violence against women that are rampant in Guatemala might be reasons she believes she has made the best choice possible? When people are put in impossible situations they sometimes make desperate choices. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t the judge say in his own words, elsewhere if not in this ruling, that her &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; as an illegal immigrant was not conducive to being a good parent? That seems to be the real issue here. Her son is a U.S. citizen, she is not. If she were not an illegal alien she would have been provided ample opportunity and some resources to regain custody of her child. </p>
<p>The &#8220;best interest of the child&#8221; argument can become a slippery slope. A parent&#8217;s right to a child is a fundamental human right. Should all these parents lose their children because their kids would have their &#8220;best interests&#8221; met by being adopted by affluent white people?</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this very disturbing on so many levels. There is such a cultural divide that most people in the U.S. will never understand. They cannot imagine a situation so dire that people are willing to risk their lives and leave everything they know to travel to another country so they can work and create a new life where they make enough money to put food on the table. The fear and intimidation these people feel once they arrive in the U.S. is unimaginable. So very, very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this very disturbing on so many levels. There is such a cultural divide that most people in the U.S. will never understand. They cannot imagine a situation so dire that people are willing to risk their lives and leave everything they know to travel to another country so they can work and create a new life where they make enough money to put food on the table. The fear and intimidation these people feel once they arrive in the U.S. is unimaginable. So very, very sad.</p>
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